#me: how could anyone like barty and evan when they're death eaters

[atlasdoe]

Juliette Wilkes headcannons

ik that a lot of people hc Wilkes to be a guy called Wilhelm but i was unaware of this when coming up with how i wanted to see these characters and i'm too attached to Juliette so here are some hcs for her

She was the middle child of five sisters

The Wilkes sisters HATED each other as they grew up

She was the person who was supposed to marry Sirius before he was disowned

She had a really bubbly personality but was a total bitch and as the years went by grew really heartless

She was an attention whore and she was proud

Bellatrix took her under her wing and would obnoxiously call her "the little sister she always wanted" which made Narcissa hate her

She had a real slow burn relationship with Avery which was mostly Avery being in love with her while she was too oblivious to know that he liked her

Her patronus was a niffler

She had always wanted brothers growing up which was why she attached herself to Severus, Mulciber and Avery once at Hogwarts

Out of everyone in Snapes gang she was closest to Mulciber and Avery and least closer st to Charity

When Charity joined the group Juliette was hostile towards her but very quickly became as protective and in love with her as the others. Think like a tone down version of Jade and Cat from Victorious

She was fearless because she low-key thought she had major plot armour. like she ran into any battle cause she just couldn't imagine herself dying

She was killed by Dedalus Diggle during a dual after she resisted arrest

Please someone talk to me about her!!!

[mybodyyearnsforelsewhere]

I feel like Evan Rosier is such a complex character in the way that he has such a potential to be even crazier than Barty but the Fandom tends to dilute him down to just be a 'pretty bad boy'. He has barely any Canon basis so it's really easy to make him into whatever you see fit but I think it's so unfair of people to just reduce him to a pretty face when he's such an interesting character when you peel apart the layers.

Give me an Evan Rosier who was neglected by his parents, not necessarily abused but definitely neglected so he dissected roadkill as a means of comfort. He was so disconnected from his caregivers that he started to kill and dissect things because it made him feel connected to something and he liked the control of taking somethings life and then peeling it apart, specifically because he lacked so much control in his own life. Give me an Evan Rosier who lost himself in the activity of dissecting and began to do it to people who pissed him off or tried to manipulate someone because he doesn't know how to interact with someone who opposes him so he kills them instead because it gives him control.

Give me an Evan Rosier that when he finally starts to care about people (see: regulus and barty) he starts to kill anyone who he sees as a threat to his relationship with them because that boy cannot get enough of control. He's never had to try and preserve a relationship before so he doesn't know how to do it other than kill anyone who could get in the way of it.

I think it's so interesting to put Evan in a situation where he could easily do more gruesome cruel things than Barty because while barty is less than sane he does have moral standings whereas Evan has the sanity (or at least the illusion of it) while he doesn't have that much of a guilty conscious because why should he feel guilty over something he's been doing since he was a kid? I just think it's a really nice way to characterize him and it also makes the death eaters seem more morally Grey which i feel like is lost when people talk like they're just 'cute soft boys' while really they weren't good people and most of the time they were ok with that because it's what they'd grown up as and what they were familiar with.

[sunshinemarauders]

Why do people babygirl-ify Death Eaters?

Hi everyone! I'm back with more of my research!

After returning to the marauders fandom to study it, I was particularly interested in why fans were drawn to characters that were canonically death eaters. I understood the obsession with Regulus Black and Draco Malfoy- they were canonically children and they canonically defied the Death Eaters, but I was curious about Evan Rosier and Barty Crouch Jr. To my (pretty extensive) knowledge, all we know about them is that they're Death Eaters, they're Wizard Nazis. So why did I, in doing my research, keep finding people saying these two characters were their "babygirls"? It concerned both me and my professor, who thought it indicated a bigger problem within fandom as a whole. The ability to think that making a character queer erases them of their ties to the Death Eaters is, in my opinion, dangerous. How will this be played out in the real world? Will we see actual Nazis, or actual terrorists, or actual war criminals be called babygirls?

This is a short summary of why people said they think people "babygirl-ify" Rosekiller (Evan Rosier and Barty Crouch Jr.) from my research. As always, if you have any questions or if you want to chat about any of this, reach out to me! My asks are open

Because its fun

I truly think it has less to do with their evilness, and more to do with what we have in canon. We know characters Draco Malfoy, we know what they're like, what they've done. Then, we see something 'uncharacteristic' and it stands out, like a literary uncanny valley. It stands out, and if someone was to try, I know I'd just swipe past it. However, when you compare them to "empty vessel" name-only characters, because we don't have many fully-fleshed out evil characters in the material, it's easy to slap a babygirl sticker all over him, and be like oh its my headcanon. A popular character, with facts and details about them, will stand out when you make a new headcanon that doesn't fit inside what we know about HP. I think characters like Barty, Evan, and even Regulus, are ragdolled around and basically original by the time nearly anyone writes them. This isn't a condemnation! Just how I understand it.

People started to realize that Regulus was an interesting character himself, rather than him being a bratty younger sibling to Sirius. Therefore he had to have friends, so we started to see a surge in Evan and Barty. In the early Reggie appreciation era (early 2022) we saw quite a bit of Bartylus, but that has died down as people like to think of Jegulus as their endgame now. I also think that fanfiction greatly shapes the minds of the fandom, especially well written popular ones. The first and most prominent one that Rosekiller character appears in is Just Lovers (like we were supposed to be) on ao3 by bizarrestars. Here, they are playful and sarcastic best friends of Reggie who help him through his lil emotions. Everyone loved them so much that the zar (the author) gave us their own lil intermission of it.

Because it's fun! I really don't think it's deeper than that. People started liking Regulus and then they decided that his friends could be nice too, and then they decided that his friends could be queer or even dating each other and they could be babygirls and who cares it's just fun. I'm not a big Rosekiller shipper and I'm more of a Wolfstar girl lately (but that's just because most of the Jegulus fics are sooo poor quatlity, like yes I know that Regulus is mean, but if you make him an absolute ass with no redeaming qualites I'm not gonna want them to get together) so I might not have the most insight on this, but I don't really with there's a deeper reasoning here other than the fact that it's fun.i guess because people just wanted to see them as "normal teenagers" like the marauders, like to remember that before they became death eaters they were boys as well doing stupid things and getting in trouble like everyone else did, and also because they fit well into regulus' potential circle of friends, idk i like the idea that the three of them (evan, barty and reg) were friends in school and then they took different paths where regulus "got" his redemption arc and the others just went insane following voldemort's ideals, i guess i just love angst and it would be a tragic story of how their friendship ended tbh

For a long time we had very few Slytherin students in the Marauders era, and whether we like it or not Slytherin is the most popular house of Harry Potter, people love characters with tragic pasts and dubious morality and also they are characters with very poor description and easy to shape in their personal desire, I don't think that's wrong, but I have no interest in them as characters, to me they're just irrelevent, occasionally appearing in my ideas for fanfics I'll never write, usually as future death eaters

i think the current fandom is less inclined to read/write self-insert fics or OCs, and evan and barty are essentially blank slates that authors can overlay whatever personality they want to that will help fill out their story. also, it’s fun to add characters to the slytherin house during years we don’t know much about. also x2, most fics aren’t writing about them killing people and enjoying it. i don’t think the fact that they were death eaters is the reason people are babygirl-ifying them or wanting to ship them.

this is a very interesting question, and i haven’t thought about it in these terms. personally, as i mentioned briefly in the last question, i hate babygirl-ification in general. i don’t like the way that it infantilizes men, and despite the fact that in this case they’re fictional, i’ve seen it happen with real people several times (dan and phil, crankgameplays, even markiplier a little bit). it has very weird connotations and i just don’t vibe with it at all. he’s not your softboy cinnamon roll babygirl, he’s a man in his 20s. it’s just odd to me, and i’m FTM transgender, so i’ve seen it happen to trans men too and it just feels gross to me. like i’m not softboy cinnamon roll i’m just. a guy. i am literally just a guy. but like in general i hate the concept of babygirl-ifying anyone, as for it being characters without a redemption arc, i think it’s because they got popular in a fic where they were never evil in the first place. i could be wrong, but from what i noticed barty and evan only became liked characters in Just Lovers, which is a no-voldemort AU, meaning they were never death eaters. and they were given nicer roles in the story to serve the plot and further regulus’ character development. like they only got a better reputation because the author needed them to for the plot and they were in a setting where that made sense, and ever since then they’ve been big characters. like i don’t think it’s necessarily about them in canon at all. i think people liked who they were in that one story and it just kind of exploded from there and now they’re being written with redemption arcs in other works too. and really, i don’t see anything wrong with that. i will say i am Not A Fan of those AUs where someone joins the death eaters to save someone else, like james joining for reg, i refuse to touch them. that’s icky to me. but yeah idk. i don’t like babygirl on the whole, i think it’s gross and infantilizing and weird, but as for why these characters are getting that treatment, i think it’s literally just because of a fic they read where they were interesting characters and weren’t morally reprehensible and it’s snowballed from there.